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Tuesday, April 03, 2007

John Paul II On His Way

2 years since his death, and John Paull II is still the best Pope EVER.





"On 8 March 2007 it was announced that the Vicariate of Rome announced that the diocesan phase of John Paul's cause for beatification is at an end. Following a ceremony on 2 April 2007 -- the second anniversary of the Pontiff's death -- the cause will proceed to the scrutiny of the Vatican's Congregation for the Causes of Saints."

And yes, I've already prayed asking for him to intercede * on an extremely difficult matter earlier this year...which for WHATEVER reason, was solved.

God rest his wonderful, saintly soul.

*So there is no misunderstanding, we Catholics do not pray to a saint, or person as if they were God. We ask them TO INTERCEDE, that is, for them to ask for God's divine mercy in judgement on a matter, for us. They can do so, because it is judged that they are closer to our Heavenly Father, than we are.

This custom is the number one cause of confusion in non-Catholics about our religion, I have found.

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  • We ask them TO INTERCEDE, that is, for them to ask for God's divine mercy in judgement on a matter, for us.

    I did not know that, but then I'm a confirmed Atheist, although I was married to someone who did an R.E. degree so I've picked up bits and bobs of the various religions.

    Heh, you'll laugh at this, Vic, or shake your head in despair . I was having a discussion at work about religion and at least 2 people didn't know Catholics were Christian. They thought Catholics were some sort of separate religion. Oh how I laughed.

    By Blogger Kullrad, at Tue Apr 03, 04:36:00 am GMT-4  

  • The other BIG misunderstanding is other religions think we Catholics worship Mary, Jesus' mum, as a God.

    Instead of as a human who is much closer to God, like the saints.

    By Blogger conv442, at Tue Apr 03, 07:51:00 am GMT-4  

  • I did not know that, but then I'm a confirmed Atheist, although I was married to someone who did an R.E. degree so I've picked up bits and bobs of the various religions.

    Oh yes? Well, I'm amazed at her degree, which is fairly unusual these days. But I see her religious interests didn't rub off on her personal life...

    Heh, you'll laugh at this, Vic, or shake your head in despair . I was having a discussion at work about religion and at least 2 people didn't know Catholics were Christian. They thought Catholics were some sort of separate religion. Oh how I laughed.

    HAH. That is a common conceit today, amongst "Christians".

    This is probably why I am not born again -- first, I'm not the dogmatic type. Second, their enthusiasm is different from mine. I'm happily Christian. They seem possessed by it.

    But yeah, just the other day I had an argument with about Catholics not being Christians, and then I got into my car, and there was a radio programme on NPR saying the same!

    Ack.

    Cheers,
    Victoria

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Tue Apr 03, 02:16:00 pm GMT-4  

  • The other BIG misunderstanding is other religions think we Catholics worship Mary, Jesus' mum, as a God.

    LOL! I was JUST about to write that in my original post, when I deleted it just before posting. I thought it would muddy the waters, which should be concentrating on JPII. ;)

    Instead of as a human who is much closer to God, like the saints.

    EXACTLY.

    For example, my late maternal grandmother was very very dear to me, and though she's not a saint, or venerable, etc. I do sometimes ask her...I don't know how to phrase it.

    It's not intercede with anyone above. It's not to ask the Big Guy for something on my behalf.

    Perhaps it's just to lookout for her little granddaughter, from up there.

    Not sure there is a verb for that, but I bet you I'm not the only one who does that.

    Cheers,
    Victoria

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Tue Apr 03, 02:19:00 pm GMT-4  

  • This is probably why I am not born again -- first, I'm not the dogmatic type. Second, their enthusiasm is different from mine. I'm happily Christian. They seem possessed by it.

    True, that. Which reminds me that, with regard to birth (and being born again), my mother used to say, "Once is enough!" She also believes that those who never had it to begin with can't stand those who did which is why they work so hard to personally convert someone.

    And this reminds me that you never did visit me over there and Ruth Anne and I have been waiting patiently for you to tell us exactly what accent Catherine Tate is using in the video there.

    As an inducement for you to wander over, I've added a bumpersticker for a candidate I am positive you can get behind in the US presidential sweepstakes, although I am equally convinced you will gag at what appears below the fold.

    By Blogger Internet Ronin, at Tue Apr 03, 07:28:00 pm GMT-4  

  • I'm not an expert on Christianity because my parents never took us to church, ever.

    All I know is that it is generally accepted that Catholic schools are better than public schools (in the U.S.).

    By Blogger Alcibiades, at Tue Apr 03, 09:02:00 pm GMT-4  

  • True, that. Which reminds me that, with regard to birth (and being born again), my mother used to say, "Once is enough!" She also believes that those who never had it to begin with can't stand those who did which is why they work so hard to personally convert someone.

    Yes.

    Having said that, don't get me wrong. I honour those who have found a renewed faith in their Christianity, and that's fine.

    It's just, as your mother must agree, that they seem so gung-ho about it, that they are sometimes offputting with their enthusiasm.

    Take President GW Bush.

    His born-again Christianity is said to be tied to it having helped him in his struggles with alcohol (and drugs).

    So for people such as he, they owe more than conversion to religion to being born-again.

    They owe their very lives and sanity.

    That's a hard sell for people like me, who just never had those travails (thankfully), thus never needing its succour.

    And this reminds me that you never did visit me over there and Ruth Anne and I have been waiting patiently for you to tell us exactly what accent Catherine Tate is using in the video there.

    OH! How come I completely forgot about this? I'm falling down asleep but I will check in the morn. ;)

    She recently added a Geordie woman to her repertoire, so maybe that.

    As an inducement for you to wander over, I've added a bumpersticker for a candidate I am positive you can get behind in the US presidential sweepstakes, although I am equally convinced you will gag at what appears below the fold.

    Oh oh!

    Cheers,
    Victoria

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Apr 04, 02:31:00 am GMT-4  

  • I'm not an expert on Christianity because my parents never took us to church, ever.

    You're in the right country for that, believe it or not. ;)

    Europeans seem to think that Americans are all bible-thumpers, and man is that ridiculous.

    Of course, when you think that anyone who is religious is looney, when you see a fair amount of people who practise religion, certain folks will confuse that with universal religiosity.

    In their minds, I presume no one going to church, or believing in God, is superior to having a nation which a fair amount of their people do.

    All I know is that it is generally accepted that Catholic schools are better than public schools (in the U.S.).

    In almost all countries, Alcibiades.

    Indians owe almost all their schooling tradition to them.

    Cheers,
    Victoria

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Apr 04, 02:34:00 am GMT-4  

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