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Wednesday, October 29, 2008

The 'Baracommercial' Live-Blog Thread

Launched extra early for your thoughts, or just to relax together.

- What do you think he'll talk about?
- Do you think any part of it will be live?
- Will his wife and kids play any role?
- Do you think this 30 minute infomercial will backfire?
- Will there be a token audience with him?



Please try Sopcast for live-streaming television channels. That's how I have watched football matches in the past. More info, as I get it.

FLASHBACK: H. Ross Perot's 1992 infomercial.



FLASHFORWARD: Hugo Chavez of Venezuela's "Alo Presidente" weekly television programme. (Via ElCubanitoKC)



UPDATE: Please join us in the comments section, for the "live-blogging" portion.

IN THE COMMENTS: Mrs. Whatsit had the best comment of the night.

"I will always be honest with you..."

Notice the future tense. When do you suppose he's planning to start?

Zachary Paul Sire, one of the more liberal commenters on Sundries, takes us to task about our collective commentary:

I guess the parts about talking to his daughters, reading to them, his mother dying of cancer, his grandparents, and all those childhood photos...none of that was personal.

It's not that, Zach, although your point is well-taken. It's just that he doesn't emote. A politician has to learn to connect with his audience on an non-intellectual level. We know he can think and say pretty words. But does he have "soul"?

Ron goes for the funny bone.

Kansas roots? John Brown had Kansas roots, and I wouldn't vote for him either!


JSU pretty much nails my own opinion.

This was a total bomb. Obama needed personal and *real*, but he just did more of the usual packaging. The whole thing was, in aesthetic at least, just like one of those interminable convention intro videos.

Although I likened it more to a Frontline special.

One blogger, Whitney Tilson, quotes the argument (five actually) of why Senator Obama's infomercial was worth it, saying:

A friend emailed me earlier today with the argument that tonight's 30-minute Obama ad buy on all of the major networks might work against him -- it might be perceived as self-centered, piling on, presumptous, etc. -- so it was with a bit of trepidation that I watched it. I shouldn't have worried. It was brilliant. Not one word about McCain, Palin or Bush or any negative attacks; instead, Obama took the high road and addressed two critically important questions: 1) Who is Barack Obama?; and 2) What will he do as President?

Tilson quotes HuffPo:

Let's be honest: the Obama infomercial was about comforting white Americans - especially middle and working class white Americans. That said, it was arguably necessary and - for what it was - very effective.

You hear that White America? It was for you. Hope you, err we, enjoyed it.

Exit question: For liberals, it's always about race, isn't it?

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73 Comments:

  • I'm off to get my triple venti latte from 4bucks! Make yourselves comfy.

    Cheers,
    Victoria

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 07:23:00 pm GMT-4  

  • 30 minutes is an awfully long time.

    I wonder if some of it might be an extended version of the convention-intro-vid type of thing. Zzz.

    By Blogger JSU, at Wed Oct 29, 07:24:00 pm GMT-4  

  • It can't be that canned.

    Maybe he's going to do a skit from Sanford and Son, with Michelle as Weezie.

    Wait, screw that. I actually liked Weezie!

    Cheers,
    Victoria

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 07:28:00 pm GMT-4  

  • I'm here and it starts!

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:01:00 pm GMT-4  

  • "Real and lasting change". This implies he is going for an institutional overhaul.

    He is going to highlight people's stories, ripping off a page of Joe the Plumber.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:01:00 pm GMT-4  

  • It's taped and hi-gloss. Impersonal: bad idea.

    By Blogger JSU, at Wed Oct 29, 08:02:00 pm GMT-4  

  • I can't be here. I had to work late.

    By Blogger Ruth Anne Adams, at Wed Oct 29, 08:02:00 pm GMT-4  

  • I can't find anyone live-streaming it. Can't get to a tv right now!

    By Blogger knox, at Wed Oct 29, 08:03:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Ruth Anne: Aww man! :(

    Knox/Chickenlittle: hang in there! I'll look for a link.

    JSU: Totally. It looks like his ad where he is in the classroom.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:05:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Knox, can't find any! :(

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:07:00 pm GMT-4  

  • One of the subjects said he "has Kansas roots". Funny how that gets mentioned when he wants to connect to most Americans' values.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:08:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Yeah, I've been looking for the last 15 minutes, to no avail. Oh well, I'm probably better off not watching.

    By Blogger knox, at Wed Oct 29, 08:08:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Apparently, they are blocking it until AFTER the broadcast:

    You can watch the Half Hour Obama infomercial online here after the infomercial broadcasts live on CBS, NBC, Spanish-language network Univision, and FOX.

    Link here to watch.

    Sorry Knoxy. :(

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:09:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Tuned in late... first minute and I wanted to hurl when I heard the KS roots comment - funny I thought one of his big attributes was his worldly, international background!

    By Blogger Laurie, at Wed Oct 29, 08:10:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Knox, here is what you are missing.

    Barack inside a well-lit office, with a chair behind him. He's wearing a moiré-reddish tie, black suit, and some kind of flag pin (it looks like Palin's Blue star one!).

    He is speaking directly to the camera, interspersed with people's lifestories.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:11:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Laurie, exactly. Funny how you caught that exactly when I did too.

    This is the man who hates "suburbs", remember? What are the chances he honours middle-class Midwest values?

    I would say this is the most urban man I've ever seen.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:12:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Oh, gag me. I'm glad Mom and the girls insisted on watching something else, as I'm otherwise a glutton for this sort of punishment.

    By Blogger Bekah, at Wed Oct 29, 08:13:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Wow, this broadcast is very plastic. I am not sure what I was expecting.

    What it has in high production values, it lacks in Ophrah-like emotion (since Harpo Prod. leant a hand, I thought it would be realistic and with a strong presence).

    When I think of Obama I think of "cool" demeanour, but that cuts both ways. He's utterly devoid of any warmth at all. He's the anti-Clinton.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:13:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Hey Bekah! I miss you. :)

    My mother is watching something else too.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:14:00 pm GMT-4  

  • BOOOOOOORING. Dear God. This is a Frontline special.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:14:00 pm GMT-4  

  • And I like Frontline, but still.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:15:00 pm GMT-4  

  • 15 minutes gone, will he change the format?

    He's now giving a speech about kids at school. He's being preachy about video games.

    Will he say that people should learn Spanish?

    Ah, he's mentioning his dear old Dad.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:15:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Photo of his mother looking very pale in her mini skirt. ;)

    "This is no picnic for me either, buster"

    A little Palinism, you betcha.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:16:00 pm GMT-4  

  • 4:30 a.m.?- what did they do the night before???!!

    By Blogger Laurie, at Wed Oct 29, 08:17:00 pm GMT-4  

  • BARACKOPOLIS SHOT! Wondered if we would get a shot of that, considering Palin's roll-out completely eclipsed the news that day.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:17:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Heh, Laurie. Actually, he was talking about his school in Indonesia.

    If his mother had to wake him up to tutor Barry in English, what does that mean -- that he was learning Arabic or Indonesian at St. Francis?

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:18:00 pm GMT-4  

  • My candidaceh. Respect mah authoriteh!

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:19:00 pm GMT-4  

  • I wonder how his grandma Madelyn Dunham is doing, and if she is well enough to watch this?

    Has she voted absentee? Why is there such a media blackout about her?

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:19:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Michelle...is saying that Barack read every single Harry Potter to his girls.

    He just cornered the hobbit vote.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:20:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Did he really just say "I am my brother's keeper."???

    By Blogger Laurie, at Wed Oct 29, 08:20:00 pm GMT-4  

  • The maudlin, "Main Street USA" soundtrack is very bland.

    Ah, it's getting jazzier now. I think Sarah would've had a Motley Crue song.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:21:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Biden-Dodd-Obama.

    Another triumverate we really don't need in America...

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:21:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Did he really just say "I am my brother's keeper."???

    Should we ask George?

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:22:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Joe said "whoa. this guy's good, we better watch out for him!... or jump on his coattails!"

    By Blogger Laurie, at Wed Oct 29, 08:22:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Third generation Ford employee. From Michigan? He has a southern twang.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:22:00 pm GMT-4  

  • LOL, Laurie. Biden is such an opportunist. They all are, but he's more than most.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:23:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Ah there's a plant in Louisville?

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:23:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Mrs. Dunham getting her Rosie the Rivetter mention.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:24:00 pm GMT-4  

  • In minute 24, he has these slogans about what he will do (protect America, etc.) to the right of the screen in white.

    Very subliminal.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:25:00 pm GMT-4  

  • "I'll rebuild our military" - not with Barney Frank's help!

    By Blogger Laurie, at Wed Oct 29, 08:25:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Good point, Laurie.

    Biden is saying that this is the man who can bring bipartanship to this country. He's obviously been peeking at Pelosi's notes.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:26:00 pm GMT-4  

  • I would believe him a lot more, and be more tolerant of Obama, with an majority Republican congress.

    But that's not the case, by far.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:27:00 pm GMT-4  

  • WHAT! He's live in Florida now. Where???!

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:27:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Where in FL? Do you know?

    By Blogger Laurie, at Wed Oct 29, 08:27:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Knox, he's in an arena somwhere, wearing the self-same black suit, and a striped silver-black tie. He's got "Change" on the podium.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:28:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Choose our better history = trying to channel Lincoln's choose our better angels.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:28:00 pm GMT-4  

  • If this is at UM I will plotz.

    The crowd erupted when he mentioned college tuition.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:28:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Just tuned in....

    "I am not a perfect man"

    Gee, thanks for reminding me.


    "I will always be honest with you..."

    LMAO!

    Cut to the live footage of absurd impossible promises.

    By Blogger knox, at Wed Oct 29, 08:28:00 pm GMT-4  

  • ah, Ft Lauderdale student needs $ - ha ha! Here's the get in their face cheer!

    By Blogger Laurie, at Wed Oct 29, 08:29:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Very savvy about choosing Florida.

    "Thank you and God bless you", he was drowned out when he said "And God bless America".

    His first and last thought is never about America. Ugh.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:29:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Obama Biden, with the sun rising from that red stripey field.

    I feel sick.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:30:00 pm GMT-4  

  • smoke and mirrors - and lots of glitz thanks to Oprah - I hope the American people are smarter than this - but without an effective 4fourth estate voice, I'm not sure the word will get out

    By Blogger Laurie, at Wed Oct 29, 08:30:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Thoughts:

    It wasn't as painful as I thought, in terms of charismatic visuals. In fact, until the very last arena shot, I would say it was dead boring. It went by quickly, but it was far too slick to make any kind of emotional connexion with the audience.

    What did you think guys?

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:31:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Wow, Joe Buck said this is the first suspended World Series in the history of the game. Rain delay from the previous time.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:32:00 pm GMT-4  

  • I loathed Gore, had no respect for Kerry but didn't particularly

    --- OK, just distracted by this ridiculous soaring music at the end: gag! ---

    have strong feelings about him. But this Obama-cult insanity freaks me out.

    By Blogger knox, at Wed Oct 29, 08:32:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Just tuned in....

    Wow! Excellent.

    "I am not a perfect man"

    Gee, thanks for reminding me.


    An attempt for a man who just purchased 30 minutes on 3 networks to sound...humble.

    I'll let the irony sink in.

    "I will always be honest with you..."

    LMAO!


    LOL.

    Cut to the live footage of absurd impossible promises.

    It wasn't meaty. Honestly, he could've talked about many personal things. Instead, he presented his professional side.

    He's got that. People know that.

    They want to know WHO he is, and what he REALLY thinks.

    A lost opportunity, IMHO.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:34:00 pm GMT-4  

  • I am watching that fashion model reality show.

    Just about every single web page I look at these days has an Obama ad. Vote early. Click here to see how.

    What would it be like if he won? would he be in our face (and computers) every day?

    Do you think he is just tooooo much? (For normal people?) I certainly hope so.

    By Blogger JAL, at Wed Oct 29, 08:34:00 pm GMT-4  

  • I loathed Gore, had no respect for Kerry but didn't particularly

    --- OK, just distracted by this ridiculous soaring music at the end: gag! ---

    have strong feelings about him. But this Obama-cult insanity freaks me out.


    Knox, each succeeding election, the Democrats have chosen a more liberal candidate. It's not understandable...

    OH MY GOD, YES! McCain with an ad on all 3 channels! Smart move.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:35:00 pm GMT-4  

  • smoke and mirrors - and lots of glitz thanks to Oprah - I hope the American people are smarter than this - but without an effective 4fourth estate voice, I'm not sure the word will get out

    I'm sure the Democrats are patting themselves on the back for such a professionally-produced 30 minute infomercial.

    But if I know Americans, they are thinking empty suit.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:36:00 pm GMT-4  

  • What would it be like if he won? would he be in our face (and computers) every day?

    This is what I fear, especially given his "New New Deal" talk. FDR chose fireside chats to connect to the nation during a time of desperation. It calmed them.

    But television is far more in your face, obviously. It would be a mistake, should he get in.

    Do you think he is just tooooo much? (For normal people?) I certainly hope so.

    I don't know. I fear they were curious today, and I will say about 30 million people tuned in.

    I'll scour the blogs on both sides, to see how it played out.

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 08:38:00 pm GMT-4  

  • I did not watch this and confined myself to learning about it from live-bloggers, so I probably shouldn't comment. But I can't resist remarking on this:

    "I will always be honest with you..."

    Notice the future tense. When do you suppose he's planning to start?

    By Blogger mrs whatsit, at Wed Oct 29, 08:43:00 pm GMT-4  

  • This was a total bomb. Obama needed personal and *real*, but he just did more of the usual packaging. The whole thing was, in aesthetic at least, just like one of those interminable convention intro videos.

    I get the feeling Axelrod did this just to funnel himself some more money from the ad buy.

    By Blogger JSU, at Wed Oct 29, 08:43:00 pm GMT-4  

  • I will wait until I get a chance to see it before I comment, but thanks for the live-blog comments.

    And a big thumbs-down to the networks for their exclusivity, and timing.

    By Blogger chickenlittle, at Wed Oct 29, 09:04:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Honestly, he could've talked about many personal things. Instead, he presented his professional side.

    I guess the parts about talking to his daughters, reading to them, his mother dying of cancer, his grandparents, and all those childhood photos...none of that was personal.

    You guys do realize that you are in a cocoon, right?

    By Blogger Zachary Paul Sire, at Wed Oct 29, 09:14:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Kansas roots? John Brown had Kansas roots, and I wouldn't vote for him either!

    I felt he was selling timeshares in Boca!

    By Blogger Ron, at Wed Oct 29, 09:25:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Sorry about leaving abruptly. The moment the telecast was over, what do I hear but my neighbour knocking on my door.

    She, her boyfriend and I have been schmoozing until now!

    Neither Republican was impressed, although the lady said she liked his voice.

    So there you have it. More later guys! Thanks for the company! :)

    Cheers,
    Victoria

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 10:44:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Ron, I love your avatar, LOL! Bellinis on you. ;)

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 10:45:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Kansas roots by fat behind. His grandparents left Kansas twice and they weren't there that long either time. He hadn't even been to the mainland until he was an adult.

    I refused to watch the obamercial. I did see a picture of of him in an "oval office" looking setting. There he goes again.

    By Blogger kimsch, at Wed Oct 29, 10:50:00 pm GMT-4  

  • I refused to watch the obamercial. I did see a picture of of him in an "oval office" looking setting. There he goes again.

    Hey Kimsch! :)

    I am telephoning my friends even at this late hour, to see if they saw it. So far, 2 said they didn't watch, and 1 said it was so-so. She liked the mother bit.

    It's interesting to hear opinions from people who are not at all into blogs, or in the case of one of my friends, goes to Youtube only once in a while for "research".

    Cheers,
    Victoria

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 10:55:00 pm GMT-4  

  • I've been thinking and thinking. Apart from all the other problems I have with Obama, such as his internationalist tone, his never having refused to shake a hand of a person who hated America, and his lack of actual accomplishments in each of the positions he's held, which make him scarily a cipher, I have this problem with his programmes.

    They can be summed up by these words:

    "It sounds good; who cares if it works?"

    That isn't something he can change from one day to the next. This is the mindset of an entrenched liberal, and there is no common middle ground for me and Senator Obama.

    I wish it were different. Truly. But it isn't.

    Cheers,
    Victoria

    By Blogger vbspurs, at Wed Oct 29, 11:22:00 pm GMT-4  

  • Vic I have more such pics back at Fluffy Stuffin! Thanks for the nod!

    I just can't get on that Obama train...he sounds good, but then I think it through, and go "yeah, but..." Nothing he's done, including this, has made me lose that feeling that I'm being handed info in dribs and drabs, according to how he wants to do it, not how I want to hear it, and that always leaves me queazy!

    By Blogger Ron, at Thu Oct 30, 12:01:00 am GMT-4  

  • I so can't stand to listen to that man speak.

    He got his main primary rival - Blair Hull - out by siccing the press on Hull's divorce papers.

    The he got the Republican opponent - Jack Ryan - out by siccing the papers on Ryan's divorce papers.. He was married to Jeri Ryan (Star Trek Voyager's Seven-of-Nine)...

    Then the State Combine decided that the 1st runner up in the Republican primary wasn't who they wanted so the ILGOP chose Alan Keyes. That pretty much guaranteed that Obama would get the seat.

    Obama got his senate seat by disqualifying all his primary opponents - including the incumbent - and, of course in Chicago there wasn't really a Republican opponent.

    Obama did lose his primary challenge against Bobby Rush (former Black Panther IIRC).

    I sure hope he loses this too.

    Did you know that Cook County in Illinois has 50% of the population of the ENTIRE state?

    captcha = horkib

    By Blogger kimsch, at Thu Oct 30, 12:17:00 am GMT-4  

  • Wonder if the Kansas roots include grandpa taking im to the pornographic pool hall bar when he was 11?

    By Blogger JAL, at Thu Oct 30, 01:51:00 pm GMT-4  

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